View Full Version : account resets come retail ? Yes or No?
papajohns
08-16-2005, 11:23 AM
k..lets try this again....
come retail time, you want NF to reset everyone's account back to lvl 1 or keep what we got?
zr2man
08-16-2005, 03:30 PM
I won't play at retail if I go back to lvl1. Spent too much time.
mixmkz
08-16-2005, 04:09 PM
i used to care but now i dont anymore
i started a new RN crew with a new account today and it brough back good memories.. its good to be on such even playing ground again
seymorebutts443
08-16-2005, 09:16 PM
if ya kill the accounts people will leave. i spent 2 months training a very good crew i dont want to spend even more.
Milky
08-17-2005, 05:50 AM
This is a "testing" environment. To test the game before retail. You can bitch and complain when you have to pay for it. I've been playing since February and I have no problem at all starting off new.
Wipe it clean.
krag123
08-17-2005, 02:16 PM
I vote no, i may be fairly new at the game, but the leveling is slow enough, finally got my BO and gunners and support cew to level 22, i dont need to be reset.
My point is rather mute though as i probably wont be playing if its a pay per month game anyways. A one time out of the box fee is all im willing to give this game in its current state.
sgtspanky
08-17-2005, 02:43 PM
I vote yes...i have no idea how to vote but i vote yes...BUT only if the exp/creds/points are way faster than they are now...Like 2 3 or even 5 times more.
ApeSweeper
08-17-2005, 06:38 PM
This is a Beta we all knew that when we joined it so i have no problem if they
reset the accounts. (IT DONT MATTER)
I have 2 BO's one is 52 and the other is 47 and soon to get a CV
I plan on paying to play this game.
Voted no, I understand the idea of it being a beta, and that there are players with higher BO then me, and don't care about a reset. I plan to pay a monthly fee if sailors are not reset, I would have a hard time paying and have to start over. I spent a lot of time on this game, and to think I was already wasting away in front of my pc, and not outside doing something, and now that time may be wasted, no thanks. It's cool that there are some really devoted players that are willing to play even after a reset, but I believe that there are more players that like the game, not as devoted, but are addicted, (like me), and those players are gonna quit if things are reset. And as much as the makers of the game, like doing what they are producing, money is a big part of it.
Docevil
08-22-2005, 04:45 PM
I first started playing as Cptpilotfish, nearly a year ago. And while I don't play that account anymore, I don't want to see my new account almost completely erased. I've put some work into this one, and besides, who wants to see nothing but a bunch of DD's running around?
Jamus
08-23-2005, 01:12 AM
Papa
TO be honest.. I have dedicated the last 6-7 months of my life to Navyfield
I have been polling my own members within MiA and the general consensis is that if accounts are wiped back to square one.. most if not all of MiA wouldnt play retail..
It's taken far too many hours to get to the postition we are in ATM.. and starting again is demotivating..
I know there are many concerns in the community over cheaters hackers yadda yadda.. the reality is TNF and done their best to remove these people and the actions of few should not effect the rest..
I personally believe when this game goes retail a large percentage of players will go.. mainly based on the age of the player.. no access to funds etc.. only the core players will remain.. to then take away all that effort will cause people to lose interest.
A great example of this would have been a MMO called R.O.S.E my brother played this game.. again free MMO.. due to hackers etc.. they decided to reset.. all the old skool players left because they had spent too much time building their character and didnt want to start again
Remember this is just my opinion... :ty:
Vorru
08-23-2005, 03:01 PM
I have already spent enough time playing up to the lvl I am right now. I am not going to start the grind all over again.
Yarrgwise
08-23-2005, 03:29 PM
There should be some compromise. All accounts should be reset to level 1. First 4 sailors are standardised as now (but nameable!). XP and creds rate should double. For accounts that were active in beta XP and cred rate shoud be double that of a new player for the first month (for a total of 4x what it is now). This way its a level playing field once again, but the beta players have it much easier getting their old stuff back and showing the new players what the game is really about.
mixmkz
08-23-2005, 03:54 PM
i dont quite agree since i know a great amount of high lvl players who has shit stat sailors like mine
so if im going back to lvl 1 might as well get some new sailors :P
will107
08-23-2005, 07:46 PM
spending this much time just to have it taken away, hell no
Popeye
08-24-2005, 12:34 AM
The argument that we level the playing field is ridiculous. This game like any other rewards you for spending time on playing the game. If we level this with a game reset then why would we spend any time leveling up when it is just going to be reset. Along these lines then why dont we reset once a month to keep the field level and why we are at it why dont we make it so everyone is in the same boat so that there is no more whining about that boat is ubber and mine sucks. I mean hell why dont we all just quit the game then we are all equall..............
Oh but wait that guy next door makes more money then me and my girlfriend is not as hot as the guys across the street so I guess I better give up on life also since its not a level playing field either. :thumbs:
grenadier
08-24-2005, 02:23 AM
If they are going to do the reset (witch would be fair for the new players) they should compensate it to us in some way. For example giving us free playingtime or more exp and credit.Finally the whole leveling system, in my opinion, is a total failure. I mean u need to play NF (non-stop) for months to get a decent ship and that isnt something I am willing to spend my time and money.
WingHo
08-24-2005, 10:08 AM
No, and Yes. I've been playing for 6 months, and although it is only a beta, and we knew we were only testing it, it would be a shame to let all this hard work go to waste. Here's an idea though, we could always have an area thats ONLY for beta testers, and we keep our old stuff but cannot take them outside. We can keep our old stuff and fight the other ex-beta's in the area, but we'll get special "beta only" equipment and ship-lines that we can bring outside, and possibly other goodies like bonuses. Also, I hope it does not become a P2P, because I don't have access to the funds neccessary, and could not P2P even if I did.
PS: Don't you just love these smileys?
:duel: :guns: :eek:
Navydog1
08-24-2005, 01:05 PM
:omg: i love them!!
whitesuit24
08-24-2005, 04:43 PM
I have almost reached my goal (target) in NF by getting my BB, to have this taken away from me would be like losing a brother.
I remember when my crew were in nappies, now look at them they can stand and take a leak.
Let me put it too you this way would you like to be put back in a nappy ????
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO !!!!! AND NO!!
Isnt even worth considering. Think how many people you will lose when this goes retail, then think how many you will lose if you start them back off at lvl 1. Need i say anymore ???
On the other hand if TNF wants to lose players, then they would do well by putting ppl back to lvl 1 and charging us a fortune for the game.
And that is my opinion.
papajohns
08-24-2005, 06:38 PM
like loosing a brother? you must not like your brother much :cool:
curious, how many times have your brother crashed on u.. :dance:
Fr3AkAzOiD
08-25-2005, 12:10 PM
I would like to see some compromise. If all beta testers kept their credits, points, ships and their BO but all other sailors got erased I think it would be better then what most games have offered when the beta ended. That way it wouldn't be all FF/DD but their wouldn't be all sort of L33T player running around either.
Hell even if we started from scratch but got double starting ponits and credits I'd be satisfied.
whitesuit24
08-25-2005, 12:10 PM
like loosing a brother? you must not like your brother much :cool:
curious, how many times have your brother crashed on u.. :dance:
I dont have a brother lol
mixmkz
08-25-2005, 12:14 PM
no point keeping BO w.o my other sailors
cuz i rather be lazy and neut torpwhore a new BO than having a BO and having to traditionally lvling up another pair of gunner.
the only reason i want to have an account wipe cuz IJN gunline suck, i want to chose that rather "stacked" nation RN but im getting close to BB kongo now and i dont want to waste more of my life :P
but if account wipe comes, i will have no choice do i? haha
Jopie
08-26-2005, 01:42 AM
dont
even with this server split you are actually forcing people to start a new one , arent they?
mixmkz
08-26-2005, 08:37 AM
o well
the server split got me thinking again...
because should waste more time with a newer account?
or just try to get BB on the old possibly rotten server
or account wipe will come anyways and no point start on new server -.-"
kiltory
08-26-2005, 08:42 AM
I say hellz no spead to much time :guns: Retail
Spartiate
09-03-2005, 02:55 PM
I'm not sure to be honest. I don't mind either way.
No wipe - I get to keep my high level crew. If there is a wipe, then I can start again knowing what I'm doing and not have a crew with crappy base stats.
Hantz
09-07-2005, 07:01 PM
Hey all!
I'm sure most would agree; I've spent many hours and days playing this game and leveling up. I would not like to lose everything :nono:
"Have Fun While Being the Best"
bcraenen
09-09-2005, 09:51 AM
I think they have no choice but to reset. I think most noob players will be gone after a month or two. If you then start off as a lowly FF, you'll have to face CAs and up right from the beginning. That's not much fun and people will not stay/pay for that. So, Yes, level the playing field, everyone start from scratch ...
yopparai
09-10-2005, 02:35 AM
DO NOT SET BACK TO LEVEL 1!I spent like six months leveling to 44(played other games that is why i am not that high of a level). If you reset to level 1 i will cry. I may not play when it goes into retail because i don't really have the money to pay for retail becasue i am poor.
bcraenen
09-10-2005, 08:00 AM
I'm sorry that you are poor and I'm sorry that you will cry when you're set back to level 1. But since you're not going to join in retail, I don't think NF will care much about your oppinion anyway.
Thing is, all those who anser yes to this poll do it for simply egoistic reasons. "I put in a lot of time, I should be rewarded for that." Fact is, NF shouldn't care much about that, NF should care more about getting people to play and then getting people to stay, because that earns them money. With a lot of beta testers at high levels and few of the new players at low levels, the game will turn into a turkeyshoot quite quickly. That will drive new customers away. Thus they will reset everyone to level 1. You may lose some of the higher level beta testers but in the long run, they may (I don't think they will, therefore the may) retain more of a customer base. :cool: It's a coorporate thing ...
Frankly, saying no here doesn't mean a thing. I think the decision has been made already, they're just making sure you're ready for it (so you will stay).
naskjerov
09-11-2005, 03:23 AM
bcraenen, they might as well get rid of nation ships and have everyone sail around in FF's and leveling-up for sailors so it's 'level'. That's what ship-class limited rooms and newbie areas are for. Have I mentioned level-capped rooms? That kind of 'level playing field' doesn't mean much because even if that is what will be implemented, in a few months it'll just be the same with CA's and BB's sailing around.
bcraenen
09-11-2005, 05:04 AM
No that's nonsense. The nation ships are there to have something to strive for, taking it away would ruin the game! What I'm saying is that if you spend something like a year getting to lvl 60> you're more likely to pay for the game then if you're lvl25<. So, when NF have just gone retail, most of the lvl25< will disappear, leaving a lot of high level players around. Ship-class limited rooms and newbie areas are nice for a while but 1. I don't think many players will show up in the beginning so they will be boring, especially since money is involved, and 2. the level difference between DD rooms to All Welcome rooms will be too great. What's the point playing the 'real' game when there are large numbers of nelson BBs around block shooting you from distance and killing you with one shot? Or having 2 or 3 flattops around click killing you with the same result?
Sure, in a few months there will be CA's and BB's around but the point with resetting to lvl 1 is that the 'general' playing field will be much more spread out, making for an interesting game on all levels and a more attractive game for new players!
On the NF forums there is a poll starting the retail at some level of DD. This would help a bit but in the end, it would just move the problem a bit I guess.
The problem boils down to the problem of making the game attractive to new players and old hands alike. So far, NF hasn't been able to do this. Leveling everyone back to lvl 1 will give them time to think up something (more/better missions for example).
Also, I don't think many old hands will drop out of the game because of levelling. They know a lot about the game and will not make any of the mistakes they used to make. With a little effort, and within short time, they will level up to decent level anyway, especially if there is enough fodder around. Not getting enough new players is a much bigger problem, because when failed, the game dies! And with the kiddies gone (can't get the money from mom) this is difficult enough.
Its a corporate decision, and there's no option! If you really like this game, you'll get over it :)
Yarrgwise
09-12-2005, 06:19 PM
As was, and is seen in vancouver, people can get up to a reasonable level in a very short period of time, hammer got the first fubu in <12 hours. It's been three weeks maybe since the server split and already thechariot is level 50. I'm a casual gamer and I'm level 31, and I've been out of town two of the three weekends. The real way to level it all out will be to up XP by 25% all around, and for the first at least week, but less than a month, let BETA testers that were at least level 25 at retail get 3 or 4 times the normal XP so that the new players see what their striving for, but also have alot of fodder around so they don't get raped.
My 2c, Yarr
Zaros
09-13-2005, 07:25 PM
hum, wipe new server, leave old one.
New server isn't many high level.
Old server many hi lvl ppl.
And beta testers should get a special symbol or whatnot.
bcraenen
09-15-2005, 09:00 AM
Which would solve what exactly?
mixmkz
09-15-2005, 01:53 PM
getting fubuki in a day's play is not hard.
but getting to lvl 50 something again would be such a big pain in the ass. i dread the agano grind again....
Kodye
09-24-2005, 12:04 PM
I am a proud MiA member and have had a blast with this game. If Navyfield resets it doesn't really matter to me, but the players that have stuck it out throught the beta testing should get some kind of bonus or I think Jamus is right and they will bail. :bash:
newtpunk
09-24-2005, 06:10 PM
I voted no, but at the same time I don't care, the new players will need to have a chance, veteran players have experience
francy74
10-06-2005, 12:26 AM
The community of navy field consist of really nice players, players are pretty trust worthy a really great group of gamers if they reset everyones account its sad to say that the mass of these players will lose interest in the game. Most players of the players i know will quit if they reset =[
placidben
10-09-2005, 02:44 AM
:omg: :help: i voted a no though.. cuz i cant find a really really good reason to y our hard work has to go down the drain.. lol.. it would be funny though if it were to be reset.. imagine a 'All welcomed' game in area 7 with 48 or even a hundred of ff's.. n a op convoy having all speedwhores.. that would be interesting..
I voted no if they reset the accounts there will be no variety in ships for the first month and there will be like a million dds floating around
nightfreak
11-20-2005, 07:50 PM
Just so you know ive beta for daoc, wow, guild wars before and they reset your characters to lvl 1 when the retail release happens. Problem with NF is it s been in beta for a year or two? So you got guys with lots of time and no reward so there will be alot of upset people. I would put it forward that lvl 1 resets are not bad if you get a "reward" of some kind. Anyways point is being a beta tester does not garuntee a "reward" from the company. We do it to make the game better for all not for our own glory and overpowered accounts when retails are released. BUT before you all start flaming me :guns: ....beta usually only lasts a few months at most and not years so I think peoples should continue on current accounts with little or no change. And the fact that NF will be a ptp game soon wouldnt surprise me to see some of us leave.
Tiger313
11-21-2005, 09:32 AM
I don't mind my account to be reset, it's really up to the dev team. Though I can imagine people wanting to see battleships and carriers when they go to war, instead of having to fight off gazillions of other frigates. Therefore I think it may be good to keep some accounts as they are, like the ones of the mods for instance. I know that may sound like sucking up, but I feel there should be a couple of people that go around showing people what exactly they can reach with the game. I know it's an incentive to me, might be an incentive for others too. Most people get fed up pretty fast when they dont see anyone with a capital ship and it takes so damn long to even get a cruiser.
DuckHowie
11-26-2005, 04:44 PM
The producers of the game don't care what you think cause at the end of the day they are just like any other business, they are in this to make money.
What you have to remember is, that if you leave, there is always going to be someone there to take your place.
Put the shoe on the other foot, your a young bloke who just got Navyfield for christmas, you load it up on your computer, you go through training, get your DD, your so excited, you go into your first battle and get sunk with in the first few seconds by a bloody big BB, this happens over and over,how long do you think this kid is going to keep playing this great game that we know (I only spoke about one kid).
If the game does not get reset, there will be no game.
I voted no by the way, but im thinking about the game not my self.
Switz
11-26-2005, 08:06 PM
Thats what the noob Area is for so that no BB's can go in,aswell as the abillity to Make a level limite.I dont think they should be reset.
captdiablo
08-17-2006, 04:13 AM
fair enough for the lvl 20-30 guys yeah they might wanna start again but for us VETS that have played the game for nearly 2 years we have allready been through the testing stages and completed that we have worked too hard for to long, to have it all wiped!!!! its because of all us vets there are so many players, word of mouth, involving freinds and family in the game to start their account, it would be a waste of hard work and enjoyment if it all went i strongly suggest NF to think about the effort, commitment and reliability of all there VETS, Thank U :omg: :bash:
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